More Ska-Deprecation

The good news is that Ska is still big enough to piss it’s nay-sayers off.  The bad news is that everyone’s laughing at us. Ska Geeks have never been discouraged by our scene’s unpopularity, but rarely are we subjected to such acute scrutiny.

Over at Your Scene Sucks, recent American Ska fashion is being picked apart with sharp accuracy.  The accompanying text goes on to declare that Ska is dead, but we know better.  This is more a condemnation of the 3rd Wave fashion and music.  As a Trad loving, non-uniformed Ska Kid, I neither resemble nor resent this characterization.

“…the rude boy was never good at any sports, so instead he opted to join the marching band which, incidentally, led to the formation of his own group. the band enjoyed their biggest success at a recent high school battle of the bands, where they showcased their originality by covering the reel big fish cover of a-ha’s “take on me”.

How about you?  Is this your look? Does this burn your britches a little?  Check out some of the other scenes covered at Your Scene Sucks to cheer you up a little.  Everyone looks silly when they play dress up.  Click the image to visit the Rude Boy page at Your Scene Sucks:

Thanks to Lawless over at Dancin Mood for hipping me to this.

Check out more Ska Deprecation from Ska Blah Blah:

- Spot Shitty Ska Band Names

- Ska vs. Ska-Punk: The Debate Continues

10 Comments

  1. Craig Says:

    So sad, but true…this is how ska has come to be characterized thanks to the nerdy silly-ska bands and their followers.

    As someone who was in high school during the mid-80′s, this is especially saddening. Back then, “rude boys” actually dressed sharp and rode slick vespas (back in the last days that you could actually buy a 2-stroke vespa in Los Angeles before they stopped importing them).

    The style back then was more mod-influenced, and much tougher. There was a lot of crossover between the scenes.

    But there was definitely not a silly nerd element associated with ska or its followers.

    I only wish that someday, somehow, ska will shed this ugly 1990′s image and either return to, or evolve to something more respectable.

  2. length Says:

    I saw this a few years ago.

    you can thank stores like Hot Topic and general commercialization of Ska Punk over the years for this.

    the end. : D

  3. Jakeegill Says:

    what would happen to this image if the prominent ska bands started dressing in their sunday best?

  4. Rude BoyTenchi Says:

    I love ska music. Yes i wear the suit and tie at gigs. People are willing to talk smack how nerdy ska is killing the “scene” but when your a nerdy kid and all those other genres of music dont feel right here you have a type of music that doesn’t judge that doesn’t tell you to have the best shoes or biggest rims its a type of music that encourages you to look beyond what you know to break racist barriers, a type of music that makes u just wanna sit back listen and then makes you jump off your seat and dance no matter how nerdy or geeky you are. Music evolves “unity as one stand together, unity evolutions gonna come” -Operation Ivy

  5. JJ Loy Says:

    @Rude BoyTenchi- I hope you know that I only intended this as a way for us to laugh at ourselves. I (of course) have respect for any subculture that give the kids a place to go and a sense of belonging.

    I should have said it when I originally posted this link, but I’ll say it now- I accept this scene for all of it’s greatness and all of it’s flaws. So keep on rockin’ the wing tips and horned rims- I’ll sleep better knowing that the scene is in good hands.

  6. Chris Says:

    YourSceneSucks.com is comedy gold!

    Hub City Stompers addressed 3rd wave in my ska scene with one pOi!gnant song – “Ska Train to Dorkville”.

    Hard mods, skins, suedes and rude boy culture is steeped in hooliganism, violence and other things of provacative nature. Don’t confuse apathy with acceptance, gentelmen. The proverbial ska-dork has not found a haven in which to be accepted, but rather there will be a skin/hard mod/”proper” rudeboy more than willing to fill in the vacuum the a jock/bully once occupied. There is no blanket acceptance anywhere. Every (sub)culture has unspoken rules, social graces or general guidlines which make it said subculture. Refusal to acknowledge or address them is a liberty obviously left to the individual. But, it’s these rules that created the genre we love. The very roots of this “movement” revolved around proper fashion: the RIGHT shoes/boots, the RIGHT style of suit, the RIGHT brand of shirt…and, obviously, the RIGHT music.

    spirit of ’69,

    Chris

  7. Rude Boy Says:

    a. hot topic was never about ska
    b. ska was never about pissing people off
    c. quit being so biased.
    thank you.

  8. xdavex Says:

    an Rude Boy is black. not white……..

  9. Azure Says:

    Rude Boy:
    A. Hot Topic was never about anything but two very broad things: fashion and music. It’s not even that. Hot Topic has ALWAYS been about making money, which is true of ANY brand name bullshit.
    B. I don’t think that’s what the author intended. It’s pretty much the kind of attitude anyone takes, with any nay-sayers, of anything.
    C. As stated, JJ Loy only meant this article as a joke. I found it pretty amusing. Don’t you think you could have if you had first taken your head out of your ass?

    xdavex:
    Are you an American History X skinhead or some bullshit like that?
    I’m only just starting to understand these subcultures, since the only ones I was ever exposed to in high school were jocks, preps, goths, emos, and gamers. I’m having so much fun figuring stuff out about indies, steampunks, rudeboys, skinheads, and more.
    I really like the fashion and music tied to each of these, but honestly it just gives me more of a reason to shit on the subculture if I see people going around making it about race. Like, how blind and retarded can we possibly make ourselves?

    ~*~

    I really like Chris’s block of text about how the scene started out with unspoken rules. It reminds me of a quote from SLC Punk!, though Chris is speaking more from inside a scene than critiquing one:
    “Wouldn’t it be more of an act of rebellion if you didn’t spend so much time buying blue hair dye and going out to get punky clothes? It seems so petty. Stop me if I’m being offensive. You wanna be an individual, right? You look like you’re wearing a uniform. You look like a punk. That’s not rebellion. That’s fashion.”

    That quote and this entire message reminds me of Hooker with a Penis by Tool. It’s a decent song:
    “All you know about me’s what I’ve sold you, dumb fuck. I sold out long before you ever heard my name. I sold my soul to make a record, dip shit, and you bought one.”

    I’d suggest checking this song out, and SLC Punk!, for anyone with delusions of being individuals while in a scene, or of popular bands NOT being “sell-outs.”

    P.S.
    Holy damn was “Ska Train to Dorkville” awesome. I looked into ska because of No Doubt and Fishbone, and while I still think they’re fun, I can’t really say they’re particularly GOOD music.

    I found a link to a skaspot discussion on Hub City Stompers’ MySpace. The original post is dripping with so much bullshit that I can’t bring myself to hack my way through the comments. If the lack of revolution is actually what HCS was talking about, holy fuck are they right. This is entirely another topic, but man do people need to open their eyes.
    I wish music today had meaning and purpose. Everyone is getting so comfortable with their own little worlds that it doesn’t seem like anyone is on their toes anymore, screaming out for change. I’m all for finding bands with a message and a purpose.
    On that note, while I know his genre is hiphop and not ska, Saul Williams is pretty amazing.

  10. Oxbloodinferno Says:

    sends chills up my spine.



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